white elephant gift exchange
Nov. 18th, 2013 04:51 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Have you participated in a white elephant gift exchange? Did you enjoy it? What did you enjoy about it? What rules did your gift exchange follow? Can you articulate any unspoken rules that everyone followed (like "don't gift a puppy"), or describe an occasion when an unspoken rule was broken?
My book group does this every year. I don't remember whether they started it before I dropped out, but it is the kind of thing that, when faced with, I generally find reasons to be elsewhere. Because it is the kind of thing that has rules, but nobody will tell you what they are. But this year, someone other than me was brave enough to admit to being made uncomfortable by not knowing what the rules for an acceptable gift were.
The six of us who attended November's meeting talked it over, not very successfully. Some people participate in more than one of these, and were more willing to talk about how it works (or doesn't) in their other group. One woman mentioned someone giving broken venetian blinds. One woman said that, in her other group, a sex swing got regifted every year. One woman mentioned receiving a shoebox full of hotel shampoos and lotions, which, she thought, was not intended as a joke gift. One woman who wasn't present at November's meeting was mentioned as always spending too much *and* adding homemade cookies.
One woman advocated for doing whatever pleased you, taking into account the fact that everyone else would be doing whatever pleased them. One woman, who had been trying to express how bad it can feel to receive a box of crap, especially when you have put time and thought into a nice gift, felt that the discussion had portrayed her point of view as selfish.
I would love to hear from a wider network, if you care to post a pointer to this.
My book group does this every year. I don't remember whether they started it before I dropped out, but it is the kind of thing that, when faced with, I generally find reasons to be elsewhere. Because it is the kind of thing that has rules, but nobody will tell you what they are. But this year, someone other than me was brave enough to admit to being made uncomfortable by not knowing what the rules for an acceptable gift were.
The six of us who attended November's meeting talked it over, not very successfully. Some people participate in more than one of these, and were more willing to talk about how it works (or doesn't) in their other group. One woman mentioned someone giving broken venetian blinds. One woman said that, in her other group, a sex swing got regifted every year. One woman mentioned receiving a shoebox full of hotel shampoos and lotions, which, she thought, was not intended as a joke gift. One woman who wasn't present at November's meeting was mentioned as always spending too much *and* adding homemade cookies.
One woman advocated for doing whatever pleased you, taking into account the fact that everyone else would be doing whatever pleased them. One woman, who had been trying to express how bad it can feel to receive a box of crap, especially when you have put time and thought into a nice gift, felt that the discussion had portrayed her point of view as selfish.
I would love to hear from a wider network, if you care to post a pointer to this.
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Date: 2013-11-19 01:35 am (UTC)If it's not supposed to be silly/useless, then it's a Kris Kringle exchange.
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Date: 2013-11-19 01:36 am (UTC)I like the idea of a mathom exchange. Where everyone brings something of value that they have no use for. Possible rule, "bring the most valuable thing you have no use for"? Then after all the presents are opened have an open outcry exchange. Though, come to think of it, that may work better if everyone brings three items. Then people can end up with one thing they really want or a whole bunch of things they slightly want.
If it is a crafty group a made things exchange could work. If there are some non-crafty people have them buy something at an agreed upon value thinking of how much your craft work is worth.
Or there could be a service exchange. Two and a half hours of babysitting, two hours of help with yardwork, etc.
Or a hybrid version where you bring one mathom, one thing you bought for under $10 or made in about three hours (the assumption being that your take home after expenses is about $3/hour), and one voucher for a service.
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Date: 2013-11-20 05:49 am (UTC)That idea is tremendously appealing until I realized that for me, it would be the drum kit that both kids used to play and neither has any plans to return to.
I do like all your ideas better than whatever it is we're doing now.
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Date: 2013-11-20 05:39 am (UTC)Not a direct experience of mine, but I've several times heard of people whose group did "Ornament Swaps", where all items were Christmas ornaments; that might be an attempt to even the playing field somewhat, along the lines of commenters' suggestions that items must be 'useless' (because let's face it, who doesn't have A. enough ornaments already, and B. no functional use for them eleven months of the year?)
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Date: 2013-11-19 02:28 am (UTC)I came home with a swirly glass paperweight type thing that I really like and still display. I debated the social dynamics of stealing it, and felt that the prior owner was very disappointed that I did so. If I had continued socializing with that group, there might have been fallout from that.
On top of anxiety about gifts, there's potential anxiety about wanting, greed, winning, social hierarchy, etc. I'm just as glad not to have participated in a white elephant party in a long time! It seems like part of the point is inducing uncomfortable tensions.
On the other hand, I've happily participated in swaps where people bring (nice) things they no longer want and place them unwrapped in the middle of the room for people to take turns choosing from. I've given art pieces I wouldn't otherwise have known what to do with, and gotten a skirt I still wear occasionally.
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Date: 2013-11-19 11:53 am (UTC)I ran a game of it at a party in our house with a different mix of people, and unfortunately it caused quite a nasty argument between two couples who had different interpretations of the rules about stealing and both wanted the same thing. I found the greed-induced nastiness pretty unpleasant and very unlike my previous experience of the game, and so I've not felt inclined to host another attempt at it. A real pity because when it works, it can be really nice (as indeed my first couple of experiences of it were).
Most years there is an opt-in secret-santa at work, with a strong rule of "no more than five pounds to be spent" and a reasonable undercurrent of "buying from a charity shop is fine and makes the money stretch further". I usually join in and try to choose something reasonably suited to my recipient, and I've usually been happy with what I've got.
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Date: 2013-11-19 05:19 pm (UTC)I recall one exchange at a previous job that went well, though it wasn't quite white elephant. We bought new, small gifts with the rule that it be under $10. Our group included only the ladies from work, who met at my boss's house, there was food and alcohol involved (and a very friendly dog whom we all adored, which is a great a tension-breaker if there'd been any), and we all had a good time. But I have a feeling that our amusing evening was more the exception, less the rule.
Had one at a different job, where it included a broader range of people, and it was more strictly white elephant, with the rule that it had to be of an estimated low value, but in decent condition and something at least amusing. It went mostly okay, but still, there was that part where people switch gifts, and some folks were better-natured about it than others, and some of the gifts were just stupid and in my opinion ought to have been trashed long ago, so.... yeah. I'm not actually that keen on 'em.
Clear rules, though, and a fair knowledge of who you're with can make a big difference, I think.
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Date: 2013-11-19 05:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-11-20 01:08 am (UTC)I always try to get people to do something else, if an exchange is absolutely required. "Get something nice, $10 limit" seems reasonable. For a book club, make it a paperback, something you think the recipient might like and probably hasn't read. Better yet, require that everyone exchange used books?
Or, you know, just get together and enjoy the company and forget the whole forced gifting nonsense. *eyeroll*
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Date: 2013-11-20 05:56 pm (UTC)Ugh, yes, that! :P
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Date: 2013-11-20 11:42 pm (UTC)If giving is insisted upon, could one do a collection (opaque container so you can't see what others are giving) and pass that along to a food bank (presuming that's as non-controversial as things get).