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And I thought we had made such progress!

I thought I had broken in my new boots, too, but no. Neal came over to walk the dog yesterday and I could not go, because my boots had given me a deep blister on top of my big toe. So I suggested that Neal take Aiko, but no, he could not pry him off the porch even with a handful of Pupperoni. So Neal and I watched half of Vera Drake and ate tostadas and went to Mungo's jazz band concert.

Aiko isn't getting a walk today either.

The day before yesterday, while Aiko and I were walking home, while the blister was making itself known but hadn't opened yet, I met W, from book group, on her bike. This is the book group [personal profile] amaebi calls the Once and Future Book Group, because I was in it for eleven years, then dropped out for nine, then sort of? maybe? dropped back in. I've actually been attending, on and off, for over a year. Something will happen -- like, last time I went to book group at W's house, I said "Thank you for letting me come" and she said "Yeah! No, come every time!" -- and I'll decide that I'm in, and then something else will happen -- like, I knew, from October's meeting, that T was hosting November's, but she hadn't picked the book yet. I don't know how T let everyone know what book she picked, but I didn't find out until the day of, and then only because K emailed everyone, including me, to say she couldn't make it this time.

So, anyway, I ran into W. We chatted while we waited for the light to change. And then it changed, and I said "See ya!" and took off and W said, "Yeah, get back to me if you want to do the holiday thing!"

And I'm thinking, get back to you? Holiday thing? Maybe this is a book group tradition I don't know about? Or a conversation at November's meeting? Or email I didn't get?

Communication. Why so hard.

Date: 2012-11-29 11:29 am (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
Communication is hard, I think, because humans make it, and humans make it together, and humans seem to think it is or should be frictionless, instantaneous, and possibly telepathic.

I don't think I understand how you're Aiko's American Express card, though -- oh, it occurred to me it must be the AmEx slogan, so I looked that up, and that's it. :D

Today I will be wrangling a garage door maintenance-and-innovation estimate in Arvada. If I must, I will wrangle garage door maintenance and servicing tomorrow. But if I don't have to do that I would love to see you-- if that works for you. And I would gladly pick you up, or come toting lunch, if your preferences or your blisters so suggest.

And, God, the O&F Book Club sounds like something middle schoolers would invent.

Date: 2012-11-29 12:24 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
Maybe "get back to me" is just her way of saying call her, and this is "if you want to do something over the holidays."

My guess would be that there is a person in charge of an announcement mailing list, and that person hasn't added you for whatever reason (most likely inertia), so T sent an email to that list about the new book, and of course W assumes you're on the list because you're part of the group.

Communication is hard, but I'd suggest starting with the assumption of innocent error, and call or email W and say "Hey, what holiday thing?" and then take it from there to ask if there's a bookgroup email list.

Date: 2012-11-29 03:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wild_irises
What [personal profile] redbird said.

Date: 2012-11-30 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I suspect that there's no conspiracy to yank your chain. I suspect what's happening is:
1. People are busy, lazy, disorganized, forgetful, but at heart, reasonably well intentioned.
2. This group has existed for a very long time.
3. There's no central leader responsible for organizing each meeting, adding people, removing people, etc.
4. Everyone has their own distribution list or reply to all to a previous message in their mailbox when sending out a new message.
5. Not everyone with their own distribution list will remember to add a new member. Not everyone when reply all to a previous message will remember there's a new member.
6. Since you are an old member, everyone assumes you are on old emails or their old distribution list.
7. People are busy and forgetful and distracted yet basically well intentioned and not malicious.

The result of all of the above conjectures is that you aren't being purposely excluded by some members of the group. Being a sensitive shy sort, you are very aware and very sensitive to this sort of thing.

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