house inspection
Jul. 30th, 2009 12:40 pmHouse has no gutters, negative grade (toward the house) and trees/shrubs/vines right up next to the walls. Therefore has moisture problems, including some foundation cracks and peeling exterior paint.
Sewer drainage is clear. Sewer drain is clay pipe except for one section which has been replaced by cast iron.
Plumbing is mixture of copper and galvanized pipes, but is all good except for one sink which has no water pressure.
Electricity is 100-amp and maxed out. Either thermostat does not work or circuit board is damaged, because inspector could not get either furnace or airconditioning to start.
Many windows, including bedroom, are wood and painted shut.
New gas fireplace's chimney is in good condition, but other chimney is unused/unusable, and may need repointing so it doesn't fall down. Furnace is vented out the side of the house through a wood panel which is a fire hazard.
Crawl spaces need vapor barriers.
Inspector could not get to the attic access because too much stuff was piled in front.
Smoke detectors not working. Carbon monoxide detectors not present.
Foundation subsidence has caused floors to slope significantly to the north. Inspector estimates 2-inch difference in height from one side to the other.
Fence is propped up by sticks.
Outbuildings are inaccessible because locked.
In conclusion: old house is old.
Sewer drainage is clear. Sewer drain is clay pipe except for one section which has been replaced by cast iron.
Plumbing is mixture of copper and galvanized pipes, but is all good except for one sink which has no water pressure.
Electricity is 100-amp and maxed out. Either thermostat does not work or circuit board is damaged, because inspector could not get either furnace or airconditioning to start.
Many windows, including bedroom, are wood and painted shut.
New gas fireplace's chimney is in good condition, but other chimney is unused/unusable, and may need repointing so it doesn't fall down. Furnace is vented out the side of the house through a wood panel which is a fire hazard.
Crawl spaces need vapor barriers.
Inspector could not get to the attic access because too much stuff was piled in front.
Smoke detectors not working. Carbon monoxide detectors not present.
Foundation subsidence has caused floors to slope significantly to the north. Inspector estimates 2-inch difference in height from one side to the other.
Fence is propped up by sticks.
Outbuildings are inaccessible because locked.
In conclusion: old house is old.
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Date: 2009-07-31 06:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-30 06:55 pm (UTC)i say tell 'em you'll take it if they fix the electricity thing and the grade of the lot. there's also some way to fix the slanty thing, but it involves jacking up bits to put things underneath them. someone has done it to my house, not that this makes it not slant, just makes it more stable.
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Date: 2009-07-30 07:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-30 07:41 pm (UTC)http://glenellynpreservation.org/site/restore_rehab/wood_windows.html
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Date: 2009-07-30 07:51 pm (UTC)If it's love, I say just go for it and fix the problems one at a time. ARe they all fixable through either work or money (that you might reasonably attain in time?)?
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Date: 2009-07-30 08:38 pm (UTC)Also, nice icon.
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Date: 2009-07-30 10:10 pm (UTC)I have lived places where that would be a MAJOR termite worry -- did the inspector mention that at all?
Of the things you list, the ones that would scare me are possible hidden rot due to the leaks, the electricity, and the furnace vent. The rest of it, yeah, old house is old. But totally demand that they get the furnace working and properly vented!
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Date: 2009-07-30 11:17 pm (UTC)I grant you they're not as pretty. But since I have less time to fix things than I have aesthetic sense, I just hang up pretty art nearby and love the daylights out of my vinyl windows.
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Date: 2009-07-30 11:33 pm (UTC)Smoke detector and carbon monoxide detector cost $14 for a combo unit that's battery powered. Wired-in is nicer, obviously, but battery ones are plenty good enough.
Foundation subsidence is a big issue. It'll probably be helped massively by gutters and mostly by regrading. It is possible to jack and fill, but it's expensive. If you can stop it moving by getting and keeping water away from the house, it's probably okay to leave it the way it is.
Regrading is a big one. Is it even feasible to regrade the adjacent landscape, to get positive drainage? If there's any possibility, even if it means bringing in a frontloader and digging half the lawn out, that will help things enormously. (And that's not even super-expensive, just mostly an enormous investment of time afterwards to fix things up. A guy with a frontloader will charge you like $150/hour and can rip out probably 10 cubic yards of material per hour.)
Getting an upgraded electrical box will cost you about $2000. Upgrading to 200A would be a good idea.
A way to check the thermostat situation: take the heat-side thermostat off the wall, remove the wires, and touch them together. You should see a slight spark and the furnace should come on. If yes, the thermostat's bad. If no, the furnace has a problem. That could be anything from the fan relay being old, which might only cost $30, up to and including the blower motor having failed or a failure inside the burner, either of which would probably mean new furnace at $5k or thereabouts. (Did the inspector make sure the pilot light was on? Air conditioning is pretty much optional at this point, since by the time you close you won't need it again for 10 months and even then can get by with a room or window unit.)
It would be awfully nice to be able to inspect the attic for leaks because if you have multiple ones, which given the rest of the house's condition, is quite possible, that means either a new roof ($12-20K) or a whole lot of patching and doubt as to whether the patches actually worked.
I think I'd insist on the owners cleaning out the attic enough for an inspection, and get it inspected. That's a likely deal-breaker, insofar as it's so expensive. If that looks okay, I'd hire a civil engineer to take a look and decide whether a regrade is feasible, then get an HVAC person to see if the furnace actually works or is repairable, and if either looks good, it's probably viable, but if they're both bad, I dunno. That's a fair amount of issues.
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Date: 2009-07-30 11:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-30 11:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-31 12:21 am (UTC)Also, wrt efficiency/energy savings -- I've never seen double-pane wooden windows that are actually sealed. Do they exist? In Colorado, we have *horrible* problems with condensation on single-pane windows. My mom had single-panes on the south side of her house and she'd pick up a quarter inch of frost on the insides, that would run down and sit on the sills, and that was a once-a-week occurrence from November to April. That really beats up the wood, which is why so many windows in Colorado are painted shut: because of repeated repaintings in efforts to preserve the repeatedly water-soaked wood. The problem's worse with unsealed double-pane because then the water's trapped inside where you can't get to it to remove it or treat the wood when the paint goes. And single-pane windows are *awfully* heat-lossy so I never think that's a good option around here.
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Date: 2009-07-31 12:33 am (UTC)I will definitely put the electricity and the furnace on my request to fix.
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Date: 2009-07-31 12:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-31 01:00 am (UTC)I have no idea. I'm in New England; my wooden windows were old, single-paned, and used with storm windows. Yes, somewhat less insulative than double-paned, but I'd rather have insulated walls and uninsulated windows--with ventilation-- than concentrate my insulative efforts on things that block the air.
The storm windows catch the frost and I seem to remember it only being on the outside. And they're metal-framed. And the sills are all outward-tilted so when frost melts it would run out anyway.
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Date: 2009-07-31 02:16 am (UTC)It had a new roof in 2004, so the signs of water damage are probably old, but yes I will get the inspector up there to check. Fortunately this year has been rainy enough that fresh leaks will show!
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Date: 2009-07-31 02:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-31 02:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-31 02:24 am (UTC)I think they are all fixable. Only question is how much money.
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Date: 2009-08-01 01:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-01 03:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-01 05:28 am (UTC)Here it's always on the inside.
I suspect it's because of the humidity difference -- maybe 15% humidity outside, probably closer to 30% inside because of human behavior: breathing, washing dishes, stuff. I'm guessing in your environment there is much less difference.
But I'm still surprised, since inside is warmer than outside and that's where the condensation shows up. Hm.
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Date: 2009-08-01 05:30 am (UTC)no subject
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