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"unshrivel"

This example comes from the wardrobe porn of the J. Peterman catalog. It promises that wearing their camisole is enough to unshrivel a man's somethingorother.

I was looking for images for a friend who had been given the kind of camisole that is not underwear, and wanted suggestions on how to wear it. I came up with uh, be Monica Belluci? and then got distracted by the problem of how to Dress For Success when you're a woman, when "feminine" makes you look powerless but "unfeminine" is worse, when sexifying your look just the right amount increases your power but going one iota over the right amount is a disaster.

So. Do you have any suggestions on how to wear the kind of camisole that is not underwear? Like the one Monica Belluci is wearing in the third photoset here.

Date: 2012-07-15 10:21 pm (UTC)
onyxlynx: The words "Onyx" and "Lynx" with x superimposed (Default)
From: [personal profile] onyxlynx
I always liked the way Christine McVie wore camisoles, albeit usually under a jacket.

Date: 2012-07-15 10:26 pm (UTC)
cereta: Martha Jones (Martha)
From: [personal profile] cereta
I dunno, I wear them all the time, just under other shirts - blouses, deep-cut tunics or sweaters, cardigans...I own so many camis, I have cami dickeys.

Date: 2012-07-16 02:50 am (UTC)
kathmandu: Close-up of pussywillow catkins. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kathmandu
Dress for Success depends on the occupation and region; your friend should observe whether other women in her line of work, ideally a step or two up, wear camisoles and how.

For social wear,

1) Camisole with pretty, lacy or translucent overshirt such as cannot be worn without an under-layer. This is one of the purposes of camisoles.

2) Camisole with cardigan over it, often with just one button fastened at the bustline.

3) Camisole with tailored jacket, as Monica Belluci was wearing hers.

Date: 2012-07-16 04:22 pm (UTC)
cimorene: A cream and white cat curled up and sleeping contentedly (^_^)
From: [personal profile] cimorene
UNSHRIVEL. Un. Shrivel.

Date: 2012-07-16 10:25 pm (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
As workwear? Own the company then do whatever you want.

Date: 2012-07-16 11:56 pm (UTC)
em_h: (Default)
From: [personal profile] em_h
Heh -- I'm the friend in question, and I'm an Anglican priest, so owning the company is kind of out of the question.

The person who gave it to me says she was thinking of it as something to wear with a vest, but I'd have to be careful of the context to do that. Probably not parish board meetings or hospital visits ...

Date: 2012-07-17 12:34 am (UTC)
cereta: Penelope Garcia (Garcia)
From: [personal profile] cereta
Yup. I have lots of faux-wrap stuff, so they're very useful.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:01 am (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
Funnily, I'm ordained in The United Methodist Church!

I bet your contexts are better than mine. :D

Just to be clear: my acerbic tone was about the misogynist nature of workplaces-in-general (amid misogynist USian-culture-in-general), not about decorative camisoles, their wearers or their givers.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:29 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Those words with glammed-up Alan Cummings (Drama queen)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Yes exactly this: the intriguing contrast between tight, soft, maybe lacy and boxy, stiff, crisp is delicious.

UNSHRIVEL is, on the other hand, not a word I'd use to market anything.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:46 am (UTC)
em_h: (Default)
From: [personal profile] em_h
I bet your contexts are better than mine.

Hmm, depends what you mean by better, I guess ...

And no worries about tone -- I entirely got what you meant.

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